“Every opponent of the Latin Church in history must acknowledge that in addition to producing the greatest infamies, it produced the greatest saints.”
G. K. Chesterton.
When you start trying to discredit someone by pointing out examples of “they did this, they did that” it shows an immature person who has lost the argument. Because when one cannot stick to intellectual discussions of doctrine any longer, they attack behavior. This is not flattering nor is it impressive in any way. We all know human beings suck and that people of every religion, race and time-period do evil things. It doesn’t take a rocket-scientist to figure out that this human race is fallen. It proves nothing but our frequent failure to be holy and yes the frequent failure of Christians. It shows mankind’s need for a Savior.
From now on anyone who tries to prove the Catholic Church’s teachings invalid by the bad behavior of it’s members, past or present, will be removed from this blog and not have their comments published. That means you must learn to debate like grown ups!!


As Tim Staples once said, “You don’t drop Peter because of Judas.” If anything, the proud, preening Popes, priestly pederasts, carnal Cardinals, ambitious Abbots, and licentious laity actually prove, rather than discredit the Church’s divine institution. Any human organization overrun with those clowns wouldn’t have lasted six months, much less two thousand years. Furthermore, since Christ came to call not the just, but sinners (Matt. 9: 13), it stands to reason that the presence of sinners should be a mark of the True Faith. We frequent the sacraments and spend hours in prayer and worship, not because we’ve earned the privilege of doing so, but because we know d***ed well we need all the Sanctifying Grace we can get to live up to what we believe. Anyone who thinks he can get into heaven without those extra helps available only in the Catholic Church is a better, or at least braver soul than I.
On my post “No Church, No Bible” someone showed up claiming the Catholic Church could not be led by God because of past instances of evil. This is a warning to those like him. Such malarkey will not be tolerated.